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What has happened to the Christians since Pentecost?

Do we live the way the first Christians did?

Man consists of spirit, soul and body. The old man died away from God in the spirit in the fall of the Garden of Eden and became a living soul with a body.

The five senses of sight, hearing, smell, taste and feeling were the contact field for human development in the soul from mother’s birth in this world.

This became the world’s history and human minds (mindset) in different cultures throughout the years. Man was guided by his needs and lusts guided through the senses of the body in contact with the world around them. The fall was caused because man was disobedient to God who said that they could eat of all fruit in the garden, but not of the tree of knowledge and they ate of the tree of knowledge. This led them to fall out of spiritual life with God and became a living soul that eventually was thrown out of the garden.

The most important point here is that Satan got the mandate of knowledge above the fallen man. This he has used up to this time to control people wherever he wants. How do you think, so are you and so do you do !

The law came by Moses, the 10 commandments and they became impossible for us to hold in the fallen man.

So man was bound in sin that led to death and the devil had the keys to the death row for all people on earth!

Jesus’ work on the cross, death and resurrection and ending the sending of the Holy Ghost on Pentecost was the restoration of the fall and the creation of the order of spiritual creation with God. Jesus fulfilled the law in his death on the cross and opened for contact with God the Father in the Holy Spirit through the new spiritual birth in the spirit of humanity.

So why are we still living in the old man, ruled in the same way as before, but with a «spiritual» wrapping? What happened? Where did it come from the restoration of creation. Was it based on still keeping laws as we failed or did Jesus’ death and resurrection mean something new in our relationship with God. We are born again in our spirit and are going to live a new life in the spirit.

Rom.7.1 So we can not live both the old and the new life-make a mix of before and after so that we keep both the commandments and the grace that set us free from the commandments. All commandments are fulfilled in Jesus and our new life in the spirit will love God with all our heart and our neighbour as ourselves.

We must seize the new life and put the old behind us. The old one must die for the new to live.

Jesus said, «If anyone comes after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.» Luke 9:23 So one must identify with Jesus’ death on the cross and hang up his old man on the cross every day and die away from sin and follow Jesus in the new man. Here the old man will die slowly but surely and the new man lives.

Are we willing to this or do we want both?

«Do not you like this world, but be transformed by the renewal of their minds» Rom. 12.2

Following the industrial revolution in Europe in the late 1700s, rapid industrialization began and this led to major changes in social conditions. One had to produce all the things that people needed in a more modern life. All of these things cost money and we had to go from ordinary occupations home households and farms to new jobs in an increasingly secular society. In a couple of hundred years, the social structure changed over large parts of the world and the green revolution in 1940 and beyond allowed many more people to use the money properly, fertilizers, weeds and insects were under control. In short, the world has evolved fairly quickly from a simple lifestyle to a complex secular society where the rules of the game have been replaced with brand new.

To what extent does this affect us in our understanding of a simple Christian way of life similar to that of the first Christians on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit fell and God’s plan with human beings was restored. Acts 2: 1-4 «And when the Pentecost day had come, they were all gathered in the same place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a moving weather and filled the whole house where they sat. And it seemed to them that tongues were like fire, which separated themselves and sat down on each of them. Then they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them to speak. »

v.44-45 «And all the believers held together and had everything in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and distributed to all those who had a desire for»

In 2000, the world has changed significantly and we all have become part of a complex secular society where other mechanisms and rules govern.

We need education at schools and universities to meet the demands of new jobs. We are entering into many new agreements with the community around us to accept that we are part of this. We have to earn money to buy with our own funds, we need to have houses, food, clothes warm and a lot of things in order to function in a modern society.

Where’s it gone

the man and the woman God created in his plan? The devil still has the mandate from the tree of knowledge and uses all means to infiltrate us through our carnal senses to build a way of life into our consciousness that has become comfortable but become different and more distant from God plan with man than ever before. To what extent are we willing or to die away from this and live a life in the Spirit and follow Jesus. To what extent is it possible? What can be maintained in society while living fully for Jesus? What kind of Christians can be adapted to a secular and modern system. In Lutheran faith, which is the religion of Norway in Norway, we believe in justification by faith alone, did Jesus complete everything so we do not have to do anything? But adapt to the community completely and completely at all levels, only we behave properly? Where has the radical life that Jesus brought to the new human beings become? Is it possible to live both lives to maintain life in society and at the same time be saved only by grace? Or are we in any of the essentials of the explanation of «yes thank you both .» Is there any joke to salvation for it new man when the old man is to be maintained at all costs? This whole new thinking in modern society is built in our human brain through needs and adaptation. All the currents that are based here come from the world. The host became as it is today after Adam and Eve were thrown out of the garden of Eden after falling out of the spiritual state they had and became a living soul with the dead spirit. Thus the world was built according to human abilities and the 5 senses that the devil had full control over. Jesus came to earth to correct the fall of sin with his death and resurrection, he wanted something new! There is no intention of continuing with the old, but living the new life 100% The world is timely, but the new life is eternal! Jesus was clear that salvation meant radical change. Yes, even death of the old man in our relationship with him, but also the death of the old man in relation to the society around us. What does that mean? Will the adaptation to the new life go beyond our adaptation to the modern and secular society? Or is it possible to get both by making Christianity a state religion? Both build societies and be Christians at the same time. Is it possible? The fruit or consequences of what we call revival today are not close to what we saw on Pentecost. Will we still be linked to the world all week and «living» Christianity is something that happens on Sunday I think we have misunderstood the whole thing. On the fruit the tree will be known. Matthew 7:20 Jesus clearly said that if we find our life in the world we should lose it, but if we lose our lives in the world then we shall find it. Matt.16,10,39 Joh.12,25 The world’s population is heading for a socialized society where the UN Agenda 2030 is close to understanding and will affect all layers of society and it will be difficult to blend the modern and secular life of old man with the new person who will follow Jesus. Everyone just wants to be a number in the system and we are deprived of our freedom and justice. The UN’s agenda 2030 is official and can be read on the internet in its fullness on the internet. The devil has the mandate to seduce as many people as possible and influence the world through its mandate from the tree of knowledge and thus establish a new world order. The whole development since the industrial revolution, the green revolution and the monetary system (money, debt) lay the foundation for this for a long time so we do not notice it. We are meeting the end of the household of this time, the return of Jesus and the beginning of the 1000th century. Are we ready? Or are we asleep? Here’s what we need to ask for wisdom and truth so we can see how to prepare for this time. The Antichrist will make a covenant with Israel for 7 years and we will fulfil the 70th week of Daniel in the near future. Jesus himself refers to the prophet Daniel when he talks about the antichrist who settles in the temple of Israel. Matt.24,15 Dan.9,26.27 We can not love God and Mammon (money, things) at the same time – either we will love God, but then we want to hate mammon, or we love mammon then we hate God. Matt. 6,24 Or have we redefined God to become another god that fits with mammon? The Apostles suffered all as martyrs except one, John who received Revelation of John on the island of Patmos. The first Christians were gradually persecuted on a large scale and the first Christianity was eliminated by the Catholic Church. Then there came a long time of «spiritual» darkness and in the 1500’s Martin Luther came with the Protestant Revolution, which came to the conclusion that by faith alone we are saved and it is without deeds. Even so, many years have elapsed today, and the charismatic revival of the 1970s contains additional freedom and opportunities in the name of Jesus based on so-called grace. The churches have adapted to secular society and made many agreements with it in order to work together in community.

But have we adapted ourselves to much? Have we been brainwashed to believe that the way it is today is proper Christian life? Or have we got a compromise of Christian life, where both lives must work for the community to be maintained? There are too many agreements with the old thinking that must be observed that we create a new religion out of Christianity based on putting Jesus and the Bible into a religious system adapted to society. The new one who came to Jesus’ death and resurrection, what happened on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit fell over the congregation and 3,000 people were saved and added to the congregation and all sold what they had and gave to the apostles. The first Christians held together every day and had strong fellowship together with breakthroughs and prayer. Now almost 2000 years afterwards we experience awakening again, but the world and man have changed so much since the time we experience only a little of what they experienced at that time . Man has become the focus for enjoyment of many kinds. We are bombarded with knowledge through education, television, newspapers, the internet, mobile phones that will brainwash us. In order to maintain the new lifestyle we need to have a long education, good job, house, car, thing … ..This takes most of our time and modern life is very important to us in our everyday lives. So what happens when we meet the Truth Jesus and we are born again in our spirit and we are going to live life in the spirit and follow him every day in a modern and secular society on our way to heaven? This is the spirit of antichrist and will seduce people away from the true faith in Jesus.

Thor Petter Braarvig 2017-10-24

Gods plan for the church in the last days. In order for God to be just in the whole settlement of gathering together those who will be part of the new heaven and earth, He must deal with Lucifer, the angels and the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. It was 1/3 of the angels that fell. Lucifer was the highest angel in heaven and he was not satisfied that God created people in his image, as male and female. It challenged him and 1/3 of the angels. God showed about this and he had laid a plan in his greatness. God is all-powerful and has every opportunity to do this in his wisdom and love. There was a riot in heaven. God showed about this and therefore He had a plan to solve this. He didn’t want this potential in heaven in the future and had to deal with it fairly now. God had created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden as perfect creatures in the Garden of Eden. Here they could unfold themselves in the perfect world that God had given them. They could eat from everything that was there except from the tree of knowledge. 1 Mos.3,1-13 But Lucifer transformed himself into a snake and tricked the woman Eve into eating from an apple from the tree of knowledge, she told Adam that he must taste and he did. Man fell out of the spiritual creation in the Garden of Eden and was cast out of the garden. They discovered that they were naked and God had to clothe them in the skin of an animal that had to die. This pointed forward to Jesus Christ who was His only son and who was to die for mankind. God had a plan in which has given Luifer a mandate to seduce as many people as possible. The god of this world became Lucifer or Satan.The devil does not explain out loud what he is doing and all the people on earth still believe that it is God who does all things. We see it from the perspective of our human emotions and understanding, which in turn are characterized by when and where we come from. In this way he seduces people into believing that it is God who rules the whole world, when he is. Portrays God in a bad light. We have been brainwashed over thousands of years to believe this. Why do we have different religions? Different tongues? Yes, because God has a plan for everything and He intervenes and controls everything in Agape love, which is His essence. Humans came under the curse of the flesh and needed God’s salvation. That is why he sent his son to die for our sins, on the cross, so that we would have eternal life. Joh.3,16f He brought Agape love into the world again through our new birth in our spirit by the Holy Spirit. Joh. 3:3 
 
We are all tricked into believing that God is responsible for all the misery. The truth is that the devil is behind it. He has been given a mandate in this whole situation and does not say that he is behind the misery, but lets everyone believe that it is God. We are tempted to believe that it is normal to find our life in this new world. It’s actually about surviving by doing your own thing. Suddenly everything has come under impermanence where one’s own deeds must be done in order to survive. In the Garden of Eden, God had finished everything and we could walk in finished works. This is restored by Jesus’ death on the cross, being born again, to live the new life led by the Holy Spirit. Agape love. 
 
God has given the devil a mandate right up to the 70 year week in Daniel in Israel where he will break the covenant he has made with Israel and end the sacrifice in the Temple after 3.5 years and sit up in the temple and call himself god of this world. Here comes the mark of the beast. No one can buy or sell without it. 
 
God does everything in a spiritual dimension of his own and it is eternal. Man fell out of the eternal state and became temporal. 

+ When one does not understand this context, one ends up with seduction in the flesh’s understanding of salvation which can lead to self-defence, weapons and uniforms. God is love Agape and he sent his son to die for our sins. Jesus did not have weapons, Paul did not have weapons, the Apostles did not have weapons, Stephen did not have weapons. They surrendered their lives to God in martyrdom. They had been born again in the Spirit after Jesus’ death on the cross. The whole theme of the New Testament is charity. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. We are told to turn the other cheek if we are beaten. Here it is important not to fall into the ditch on the other side of the road. Many people are being persecuted for their faith in the world today. Jesus prepared us for this. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you. 

God wants all people to be saved. And this gospel of salvation will be preached to all nations as a testimony and then the end will come. Today there are almost 4 billion people who have not heard the gospel about what Jesus did for us on the cross. 

Who do we want to believe? 

Let’s put the human aside and live the spiritual life Jesus provided by his death for our sins and the opportunity to be born again in the spirit by the Holy Spirit. Here God’s Word is the guideline for all spiritual life. Jesus said: I am the way the truth and the life. Joh.14:6 But it is important that we understand the gospel with our new life in the spirit not in the old man. 

God is gathering His people today for a new heaven and earth. 

Do you want to join? 

• Post authorBy Thor Petter Braarvig
• Post date19. June 2021
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GOD’S PERFECT PLAN

Man’s choice – Gods possibility

The fullness of time, man’s redemption,

The disciples were asking Jesus what the sign will be on his coming back. Matt 24,3-13

“Jesus answered, take heed that no man deceive you……… For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that je be not troubled: for these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and, pestilences, and earthquakes, in diver’s places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.

And then many shall be offended and shall betray one another,

and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many.

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved” Matt.24,21-22

“For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect sake those days shall be shortened.” Luke 21,28

“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draw nigh.”

Jesus considers the situation of the Christians with a birth of a child, from the mother’s womb.

Heaven and earth will come to pass, but not the word of God that revealing Gods secrets.

Does God have secrets? Yes, for sure, Jesus Christ the Messiah that bare the whole worlds sin.

He gave us the possibility to be born again and share the heavenly part that Jesus brought

into the world through his life, death and resurrection. The possibility to be born again by the Holy Spirit, so we can get a new spiritual life in our spirit.

How could Jesus talk so calm about “terrible” things that should happen in the end of times and even consider it as a mother giving birth to a child? What must happen before a birth, first the child must be seeded, then growth , so opening pressure, then press release.

A birth is dramatic, wonderful and godly.

Jesus was always calm, always in full control; he had always powerful messages that were in balance.

Mans choice, Gods opportunity. From Gods point of view, there is no drama in the fulfillment of his plan. It’s perfect. Jesus was God, perfectly integrated in the wisdom and the thought of God, so he could preach of “terrible” things that should happen with power and might, still being full of love and in balance. How??

Jesus said that this was only the beginning of the birth, and he said it will be worse until it will bring forth the plan of God and be visible to everyone like a child being born.

In the fall man died away from God spiritually, when he was tempted by the devil in Garden of Eden.

Man became a part of the material world, which the devil is in control of. Man became a living soul, with a body.

We understand only the things of the world. Our brain is limited to only understand the things that belong to the earth, the world and the people. That is the main reason man does not understand the plan of God. Seen from a spiritual view, from Gods point of view

The plan of God is logical, easy to understand, just and genius. This was of course totally clear for Jesus when he walked here among man. When the plan of God will come forth, it will be revealed to everybody that God is love and what he is doing is perfect.

Those who have being born again into the spiritual life of God will through revelation with both knowledge and wisdom, understand the depth of the spiritual truth that’s in Gods perfect plan.

When we see these things happen, we shall lift our heads, when these “terrible” things starts to happen.

This must happen, Jesus said. But this was only the beginning, worse things will happen to fulfill the birth of Gods plan. The revelation of the plan, which has been planned from the beginning, has got its fulfillment in the completed work on Jesus at the cross, establishing the foundation for Gods plan,and the redemption of mankind through all ages through Jesus.

Through mans free will, the devil managed to get mankind over on his side, dying away from spiritual life with God, to be a living soul, understanding only the things of the devil and the material world, through the senses of the body in the soul.

We have been captured by the ”spirit” of the world, based at the fulfillment of the lusts of the flesh in the material world, that is based on limited values, that will last only for a time. As God then is the creator of man, He will come in a bad view, if mankind has to suffer, from now our ego will be the point of view, for all understanding concerning man’s supply or suffering both for over selves and others.

God is to blame, if we have to suffer, being treated unfair. This reveals that we have been transformed from being on Gods side, to have come over to the enemy side. Therefore will the world be oriented, just like the devil, in the material world, understanding just the things of the world, this will create a rebellion lifestyle towards God. Rebellion towards the plan of God, the order and the creation.

God will seem evil from the man point of view. He is to blame for the suffering of mankind, but the truth is; that mankind made their free choice when they left the spiritual level.

Today in modern times, we have a lot of information coming through communication about man’s suffering in the world, this make God our enemy. As worse it gets, the worse the image of God seems, according to the devil and his demons. Here is the battle?

Where does hunger, earthquakes, war come from. Is it from God? Or is it from man himself?

After the fall from the spiritual life with God to the material life with the devil, man has come into the new situation so as to he has been a part of the material world and have to orient himself in the material things that is suitable for the human being. The man needs food, clothing, water, and heating – all the things that belongs to the world. When being like the devil in the soul realm, we will establish an unjust lifestyle, more based on lies, instead on the truth, even if the lies apprehend as the truth.

As we have become a part of the devils “truth”, which is a lie, everything will be turn upside down.

This was exactly what God has to deal with. The mankind has come into the darkness of the devil and the fallen angels. God is LIGHT. Now Gods perfect plan has to be revealed.

Gods only Son gave by himself release of being God alike and became a servant to be born as a human being, helping man by being true God and man, to fulfill Gods command to reconcile mankind back to God through his life on the earth and the death on the cross. Jesus was the seed for the new man.

Through being without sin, taking all the punishment on him, meeting all the commands.

He was able to bring mankind back to God trough offering himself as the true lamb, so man free willingly can come back to God and being born again through faith. And stand clean before God with a new born life in our spirit by the Holy Spirit.

So when all these “terrible” things begin to happen; hunger, earthquakes and war, we are told to lift our heads, because our redemption is close.

But he that shall endure unto the end, he shall be saved” Matt.24,13

ZOZO (Greek): deliverance for spirit, soul and body.

Whose side are you on?

Not to believe.

These things are really created by mankind

Hunger = injustice

Huge nature catastrophes = extreme use of resources, unbalance in the system cause to pollution etc.

War = man’s nature reveal itself by force to achieve their own material and social needs.

How can we blame God for the things happening in the world today?

It is obvious that the problems are created by man himself through his fleshly, unjust, selfish lifestyle.

Okay you may say. Why doesn’t God stop the whole thing? The humans are just doing wrong all the time.

But where is the alternative then. It means that God should stop the whole thing right after the falling out in Garden of Eden. That was the beginning of the problems. Okay, but where did you fit in then?

This has been the plan of the devil all the time. He wanted to destroy the whole plan of God from the beginning, if he had succeeded, it would be his triumph until now.

But praise God, God is bigger than the devil. He has a plan that the devil don’t understands.

Therefore God has chosen mankind to come back to him through your free choice to be born again in your spirit based on what Jesus did on the cross, so you can achieve heavenly wisdom and knowledge by the Holy Spirit through eating Gods Word and grow strong in your new spiritual life, achieve wisdom and knowledge that is not based on our IQ, but are gifts of the Spirit or new skills in the spiritual life as understands spiritual things.

All of a sudden we can see things the way God see it.

The human brain is too little, in spite of how much IQ you got or how brilliant you are,

to understand the smart things God is doing. But through the Holy Spirit in your new life in your life, is it possible for rich or poor, brilliant or stupid, to catch the depth of God, so we can understand the things and the circumstances that’s hits us in our daily life, the redemption of the “spiritual man”

When Jesus was looking at the disciples, he saw at the same time all the believers in the time to come.

He saw just the whole thing; the human beings, the earth, the perfect plan of God.

He saw the whole thing as a creation that should grow, mature and being born.

Jesus knew all the time that the plan of God was good and perfect.

He knew everything about the heaven. He had complete trust in God as his father, that He will bring forth the new creation through suffering, through agape love in the human material realm.

Agape love is loving unconditional.

In the end, incredible amount of human beings will be saved, when God is establishing his spiritual world far above the material world. In the transformation from the material world into the spiritual world, the light and the truth will be revealed to everyone, and every knee will bow before God. All the fallen angels, the devil and everyone following the devil, will be eliminated for all time.

God’s perfect plan is a reality, even if we don’t see it. Even if it is tough to be human being, it is necessary to fulfill Gods plan.

How should we as born again Christians understand these things spiritually?

We have to unveil the devils lie and grow in Gods truth in our spiritual life.

We have to die away from the old life, which has been gods plan all the time. Do we understand it?

Well, it seems that we don’t yet.

Remember. Gods plan is 100% perfect, the more we understands it, the more alike Jesus we will be.

We will think as he does. He was the firstborn by many newborn believers and knew the whole redemption for mankind will happen. Notice this; now we will experience the transformation from material world into the spiritual world, where God is reigning visible to us.

God has been in control all the time, but it has only been visible for Him and His prophets

So what shall be doing now? Continue to feel sorry for over self, just crying all the time, because we are suffering a little. No let’s lift our heads and stretch out for the new things ahead.

We may have to die away from our old man, our flesh, may even suffer.

The old man has to die, so the new life can come forth in our life.

We all have to die sometime anyway, but now you have the opportunity die away from your old man and let the new born life in your spirit grow through your free will, your choices every day. You have to discern every thought of your mind and free willingly follow the thoughts of the Spirit, based on the word of God that is Jesus.

Suffering as a Christian is normal. Jesus said, Matt.10,38: “And he that takes not his cross and followed after me, is not worthy of me”

Suffering made from a free will is necessary for the growth of our spiritual life.

We have to identify ourselves with the suffering of Jesus, to take part of the new spiritual life in us.

Rise to your feet. Wake up you that sleep, God is good; this will work out good in the end.

Look out that no one deceive you, make you believe more in the devils lies than the truths of God.

Turn yourself 100% over to God, He is good and his plan is perfect no matter how it look likes in the «normal» material world. How can you go for it if you don’t know God?

But have you met the real God, give Him everything.

No matter how hard and tough the bringing forth of Gods perfect plan is, it is definite worth it.

The great plan of God will be visible for everyone in the closing of the ages.

God can be titled:

“ALMIGHTY; IS LOVE,”

God and the spiritual world is the real world.

It will be visible for everybody when the light will come forth.

It will be total blessing for all future.

AMEN.

Thor Petter Braarvig

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• Post authorBy Thor Petter Braarvig
• Post date12. December 2021
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PART OF JESUS SUFFERING

22.12.04 – by  Thor Petter Braarvig

In the middle of my despair.  I am sitting here, making dinner and playing with the kids. I want to use my life for God and God alone, nothing else.  God has revealed to me that He has a plan for my life and that is enough for me.

Because of this, I have been waiting a lot; but I have met God, he has showed me his depth and His incredible greatness. I have said to Him, “As long as you have a plan for my life, I am ok, because that will be the only thing sufficient to me!”

I have been through tribulations in many years. My life did not become what I expected. I really wanted to be someone that could satisfy my self-confidence. The Lord has thought me another great lesson. He does not need anything of me.  I have to die complete  away  from myself and totally submit to Him and His plan for my life.  Then the vision that He has planted in my heart as a seed will grow forth in His time.

In this teaching session I’d like share with you some important truths which also Jesus and Paul talked about, how we as Christians need to die away from our flesh, from our own ways and from dead activities, so that the Holy Spirit can have His way.  It may take a while. For me it has taken a long time, but it is worth it.

This lession is divided in three parts:

–          The Fall

–          Jesus life before His ministry

–          Why it is necessary for us to take part in Jesus suffering

The Fall:

I think life is crazy….it is insane; in fact the whole thing seems dumb sometimes! There are so many suffering people, so many crazy people walking around today.

The whole system that we are a part of is so unjust!

How can even one day be used of having a good day in this mess?

Who is making all this stuff anyway?

Is there any hope, any solution?

Ok, I know what you are thinking. God made all perfect!

There were something in His Kingdom that wanted to destroy God’s perfect creation, the man, something full of envy!

Though it is hard to comprehend, the Lord knew everything that has happened today before it ever took place! Why?  Because His thoughts are far above ours; He is not in the same time frame as you and I are.  He can see the beginning and the end at the same time.  He knows everything!

From the beginning God knew the whole time that there were flaws within His creation. He was not satisfied just making everything perfect, programmed to do His will, like the angels were.  He wanted his children to submit to Him, love and worship Him of free will.  He knew that true love could not grow forth in a relationship that his children were forced into. Creation was not based on a free choice so far (the angels).

There was a lack of conscience concerning good and evil.  That is the possible reason why Lucifer, who was the greatest angel in heaven, got jealous of mankind. He lacked the right behavior based upon his choice.  He misunderstood the whole thing, his level and submission to God; he may thought he was a fault or something .  Perhaps Lucifer misunderstood what he was and therefore it seems he became very self-centered and selfish.  It is incredible to think that heaven formed with the spoken word of God, could house envy and error.  God’s creation is supposed to be perfect.  How can a flawless creator form a creation that is blemished?  There is something you must understand.  God decided to shape and mold the mayestetic things we see, with it is elaborate details, but He could not choose or create perfect behavior from his creation unless his creation is facing the choice.

God knew the whole time that He would have to cope with the falling; first with the angels in heaven and later in the Garden with Adam and Eve.  He was aware that He had to give mankind the possibility to make their own choices, based on free will. In doing this, He would be able to achieve a perfect creation, willingly submitted to His authority.  At the point of first life, mankind had the task to align themselves in perfect relationship with a holy God based upon their own attitude and response to Him.

When Adam and Eve made the choice that led them out of their close relationship with God, they suddenly felt naked and in need to hide.  God was still Adam and Eva’s friend after the falling, but He needed to take care and clothe them in the physical world that they all of a sudden where a part of.  They had fallen out of the spiritual completion and got into the physical world.  God had to kill animals to clothe them.  This was pointing towards Jesus as a lamb, Jesus dying on the cross .  His only son leaving heaven of his own will, to take all mankind sin and being a substitute for his creation.  Jesus dying on the cross was his plan from the very beginning and in the time, a new beginning.

The whole plan of God came to happen on the day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was able, after Jesus sacrifice on the cross, to fulfill the reconciling of mankind, giving the dead spirit of man a rebirth to a new spiritual life in the human body., in spite of the falling away from God in the garden of Eden.  This means God established his power in man’s spirit, creating a new life that is opposite to the normal life which is controlled by the senses and lust.  A new stronghold in the human being, opening up for a new life from the heavenly places available to every human being, through faith.  Pieces of Gods plan are falling into place.

The reason why I am talking about the falling and God’s plan is not to focus on the devil, but to place an importance of understanding why things happened that way.

The devil has a lot of control in the world today.  His mandate is to deceive as many as possible, even the chosen ones, if it is possible. Matt. 24,24.  Here is your personal revelation very important.  Do you have vision for your life, based on a Rhema from God? Or do you have an understanding based on the Logos, all the words of the bible?  We have to establish a spiritual understanding and living, so we will not be deceived through our senses and lust through our flesh .  Jesus says:” My sheep hear my voice, I know them and they follow me” John.10,27

Now we are getting closer to the purpose of the life of Jesus on earth.

We know a lot of his three and half years ministry, walking Israel, but do we know or understand the purpose of his first 30 years?

Jesus life before the ministry

How was it possible for Jesus to be born of Mary? Mary was pregnant not because of her husband but the Holy Spirit Matt.1,18  Jesus received one part from the heavenly places and the other part from the human places.  The Bible says Jesus decided to walk away from heaven to be a man, fulfilling the love and the plan of God. Fil.2,6-8  The Bible even states that he was both God and Man. That is why he could be a substitute for us.  He was a man and went through all the tribulations of life just like us, but without sin.

In the first thirty years of his life, it was only once that Jesus was in public.  He was 12 years old.  He was I Jerusalem to celebrate Easter together with his parents.  When they left thinking he was with them in the crowd.  He was still in the temple.  His parents had to return and when they found him they were upset.   “Why did you do this to us?” they said.  Jesus answered  : “Didn’t you know that I had to be in my Father’s house?” Luk. 2,49  Even at that time, Jesus knew he was the son of God!  He was not anointed yet for the ministry though.  But even at that age he was aware of being the son of God  being in the house of God, the house of his father.

I think he was trained for 30 years, so by the time he had reached that age He was primed for his ministry and finished educated for what he was doing for the three and a half year ministry.  He had to fulfill 30 years, even being a carpenter.  He had to work, he had to be a part of the society and to be a part of life and his family.  He was not in the newspaper, like a radical or something else. He was a normal man.  He was very much normal. He was that normal that he did not make any notice.  He was just like everybody.

What I will try to concentrate on is the suffering of Jesus!  There are so many scriptures that talks of taking part of Jesus suffering.  The Spirit has to lead us into the depth of the Word so we can understand the life on Jesus, because He is the firstborn among many brethren and sisters and He is leaving an example for us to follow. 1. Pet.2,21 “ For to this we were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that we should follow His steps!”

Why is it necessary to take part of Jesus suffering?

Paul is saying several times that we should be a part of the suffering of Jesus Christ!!

What is really happening with the modern way of Christianity today?

Do we really have the right revelation of who God is and how we were supposed to live like as his children?  Do we really know how our relationship with God should function?

Today you can see many christian’s moving from the spiritual realm and more and more over to the soul’s realm. Which is controlled by our senses, what we see, what we smell, what we taste, what we hear and what we feel . The devil has a definite strategy  to deceive mankind.  Turning the focus from the spiritual life to the physical life, to hit us through the senses, to be more comfortable in the flesh – the old man.  We may be deceived to believe more in taking care of the old man, then letting him die every day on our walk with Jesus.

The Suffering of Jesus should be a part of every christian following Jesus – to be clothed in his suffering for all our sins. Every sin that showes up in our life we can give over to Him that took all on Him so we can die away from it, the flesh and follow Him in the spiritual life. This is a very important procedure every day when we put up the old man on the cross to die and then follow him in the new man.

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I had a vision in 1978 to confirm these scripures. 

Matt. 22,29-31                                 

The Coming of the Son of Man 

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  

30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  

31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 

Mark. 13,24-27 

The Coming of the Son of Man 

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,  

25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.  

26 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.  

27 And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven 

I experienced this in a vision in 1978. The sign of the Son of Man was a sickle coming in from the right. 

The stars began to fall, the sky was shaken and I experienced being moved up in the heavens by power of the resurrection. There I was in the heavens for a long time with my eyes closed and I could explore God and heaven in the Spirit.

Suddenly I started to fall and I was in my bed with my eyes open. The sun shone in through the window and I bathed first in white light and then in all the colors of the light. I jumped out of the bed and raised my hands and praised God who had made this happen to me.

What an experience!  

  

Thor Petter Braarvig  07.10.21  “English Standard Version”Published October 7, 2021By todayrhema.comEditThe Coming of the Son of ManCategorized as Uncategorized